If you have or are thinking of getting a new pool installed you need to read this! If you are going to add a pool heater on to your homes existing gas meter 99% of the time, you are going to need to get your meter changed out by questar gas company! There are a couple of ways to do this to keep it cheaper for you but keep in mind that if you have a pool built and the contractor just throws a heater in there with out having questar gas come to your home, It is probably installed wrong! Please do your research on this for it is causing home owners thousands. It is an unforeseen problem that even your pool builder has no idea the problems that he has created for you!
Underground gas lines should only be installed by a licensed Plumber OR H.V.A.C contractor!
GAS LINES NEED TO BE INSTALLED CORRECTLY.
Some problems we've seen have been..
- Poor flame height, due to lack of gas.The heater may seem to be operating ok to you but inside is where the problems are. This will cause huge amounts of carbon to build up on the flame sensor and you will be calling every year for a new flame sensor to be installed because your heater either will not stay lit or will repeatable shut off and try to fire again! We had one call last year that the homeowners had just an in ground hot tub. The meter was not changed out and they said the tub took between 14-16 hrs to get it up to temp. This was caused by lack of fuel. This will result in the heater burning a very small flame for a very long time and killing your hard earned pay checks when your gas bill arrives. Also make note that we have found that unless you are changing the gas pressure on your home, 80% of the time, your new gas line didn't even get inspected! DEMAND an inspection on any underground gas line.!
-Another huge problem we are finding is many landscaping contractors who are installing gas are using short wand risers! These have been BANNED by Questar gas and are no longer allowed to be installed in the state of Utah unless certain guidelines with questar gas are met. In other words, If someone ran underground gas at your home or business, and you can see any of the yellow pipe that they installed after all is said and done, It is against code.
-Gas pipe buried with electrical. This is a big no no and any plumber or h.v.a.c contractor can tell you that, but pool contractors and landscapers won't! Why, because they don't know! They only know that it is a lot cheaper to do it themselves than to have a licensed contractor do it for them. It is a lot easier for them to just tie into your meter(Regardless of how much gas can pass through your meter) and call it good. Use caution with this!
-Fire pits. These little babies are popping up every where and we have installed hundreds. But some people are still installing them incorrectly to try and cut corners. If you have a Dante valve installed in your pit, Make sure it is in the side of your pit and not 2 or 3 feet away from your pit sitting face up! The Dante valve is a valve that has a shiny face on it and requires a key. Many are installed wrong! If they are installed in the flooring around your pit, you are probably going to have problems with it. The reason is dirt! Dirt gets down in these things and starts chewing away at the o ring that seals it.! Once it is gone , you have a gas leak and if it is concrete, well you have a major problem! Also inside the fire pits, the pipe should be ran in stainless steel! These things sit out in the weather all year and if you have black iron pipe in the pit and you have dirt around it, well your gonna have a leak! Dirt contains moisture and if it is sitting on the pipe, it will rust!
Just make sure you have done your homework with the gas part of your remodels or pools or whatever your project is.It could end up costing you!
If you are ever in doubt of any gas related problem or concerns please email us at dixiegaslinesplus@gmail.com Or call jeramy @ 435-229-9961
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Wednesday, August 25, 2010
Friday, September 25, 2009
Why Use Dixie Gas Lines?
Why use Dixie Gas Lines?
Many pool builders and landscapers are trying to install their own gas pipe now and are ultimatley creating problems for you, the home owner. Sure we could come out and just throw some pipe in the ground,hook it up and call it good! And as far as you know, it is installed correctly. Not exactly. We have had many, many hours of training on gas pipe for all applications and it is a little more than just chucking in some pipe.
USE CAUTION if your Landscaper or pool builder is going to install your gas line! 80% of our most recent calls have been because the gas line was installed incorrectly.
common calls have been:
Pool heater not coming on
Pool heater runs and shut off, then runs and shuts off ect.
Noisy pool heater(High pitch whistle)
Constantly replacing flame sensors
Taking way too long to heat the pool or hot tub even.
Questar has red tagged them.
Improper regulators installed.
Leaks due to improper burial depth
Gas odors
Don't get burned by an unlicensed gas contractor.If you want it done right the first time,without repeat fuel problems and costy service calls,Then hire a Plumber or HVAC contractor to run your gas!****They have the experience and are the "ONLY ONES THAT HAVE HAD PROPER TRAINING TO INSTALL GAS PIPE!!!"****
Do your homework! You will more than likely need to change out your gas meter as well.Most pool heaters consume as much fuel as A single family house does alone!
We have over 13 yrs experience, fully licensed and insured.
LET'S CATCH THE PROBLEM BEFORE THE PROBLEM CATCHES BACK UP TO YOU! Please allow us our proposal and rest assured. Our work is 100% city,state, and federal compliant.
Many pool builders and landscapers are trying to install their own gas pipe now and are ultimatley creating problems for you, the home owner. Sure we could come out and just throw some pipe in the ground,hook it up and call it good! And as far as you know, it is installed correctly. Not exactly. We have had many, many hours of training on gas pipe for all applications and it is a little more than just chucking in some pipe.
USE CAUTION if your Landscaper or pool builder is going to install your gas line! 80% of our most recent calls have been because the gas line was installed incorrectly.
common calls have been:
Pool heater not coming on
Pool heater runs and shut off, then runs and shuts off ect.
Noisy pool heater(High pitch whistle)
Constantly replacing flame sensors
Taking way too long to heat the pool or hot tub even.
Questar has red tagged them.
Improper regulators installed.
Leaks due to improper burial depth
Gas odors
Don't get burned by an unlicensed gas contractor.If you want it done right the first time,without repeat fuel problems and costy service calls,Then hire a Plumber or HVAC contractor to run your gas!****They have the experience and are the "ONLY ONES THAT HAVE HAD PROPER TRAINING TO INSTALL GAS PIPE!!!"****
Do your homework! You will more than likely need to change out your gas meter as well.Most pool heaters consume as much fuel as A single family house does alone!
We have over 13 yrs experience, fully licensed and insured.
LET'S CATCH THE PROBLEM BEFORE THE PROBLEM CATCHES BACK UP TO YOU! Please allow us our proposal and rest assured. Our work is 100% city,state, and federal compliant.
Sunday, June 14, 2009
Don't get burned by an unlicensed contractor!
Most pool contractors are not licensed to install gas pipe! Or electrical for that matter.And the contractors that are installing gas pipe, really have no idea on the problems they are creating for a customer after they have collected your hard earned money and moved on to their next pool. An R.M.G.A. or Rocky Mountain Gas Certification does not make your pool contractor a licensed gas contractor.You as the homeowner,need to make sure that your new 20K -100K swimming pool and heater are installed correctly.
Almost 99% of the time, if you are building a swimming pool and have added a pool heater,(even a small one) you are going to need to change your gas meter!.Think about it this way, the average size home of about 1500sf to 3000sf is built and gets a new meter installed by the gas company.The meter that they will install will be a meter that will accommodate only the appliances inside your house. Which by the way usually totals roughly 250 to 500 cubic feet per hour. Now you have decided you want to add a swimming pool to your home, with a pool heater that consumes as much gas as all the appliances your whole house does alone.This is where the problems begin! If, when you built your swimming pool, your gas meter was not changed out to a larger meter, your pool heater is probably burning incorrectly! Don't be alarmed! This is fixable in most cases!
Your new pool heater installed incorrectly will create problems for you! It's just a matter of time! Some problems you can see right away, and some you can't.
Low fuel pressure can cause your pool heater hours or even days of run time to get your temperature up even a few degrees! Extremely high gas fuel bills, repeat pilot light outages, carbon build up, very costly equipment damage, or ultimately bodily harm or death can also result if your pool heater is installed incorrectly.This is why you would want a licensed plumber or hvac contractor to install your gas piping. Call your local gas pipe specialist to have them check your system, usually for free. You can also call your local gas company and usually get a free evaluation to let you know if your pool heating system is installed up to par.
Be sure you know who you hire! Get many references and ask to see some of the work they've done! Check with your states Department of Professional Licensing! Do your homework! Oh and one other thing, Do not give them your final payment until you are completely satisfied with your finished construction project! There are many great builders out there but there are also just as many that will take your final payment and you will never see again! Sad but true, this economy thing is hitting everybody! A lien release may also be a good idea for when each of the subs are paid.
Almost 99% of the time, if you are building a swimming pool and have added a pool heater,(even a small one) you are going to need to change your gas meter!.Think about it this way, the average size home of about 1500sf to 3000sf is built and gets a new meter installed by the gas company.The meter that they will install will be a meter that will accommodate only the appliances inside your house. Which by the way usually totals roughly 250 to 500 cubic feet per hour. Now you have decided you want to add a swimming pool to your home, with a pool heater that consumes as much gas as all the appliances your whole house does alone.This is where the problems begin! If, when you built your swimming pool, your gas meter was not changed out to a larger meter, your pool heater is probably burning incorrectly! Don't be alarmed! This is fixable in most cases!
Your new pool heater installed incorrectly will create problems for you! It's just a matter of time! Some problems you can see right away, and some you can't.
Low fuel pressure can cause your pool heater hours or even days of run time to get your temperature up even a few degrees! Extremely high gas fuel bills, repeat pilot light outages, carbon build up, very costly equipment damage, or ultimately bodily harm or death can also result if your pool heater is installed incorrectly.This is why you would want a licensed plumber or hvac contractor to install your gas piping. Call your local gas pipe specialist to have them check your system, usually for free. You can also call your local gas company and usually get a free evaluation to let you know if your pool heating system is installed up to par.
Be sure you know who you hire! Get many references and ask to see some of the work they've done! Check with your states Department of Professional Licensing! Do your homework! Oh and one other thing, Do not give them your final payment until you are completely satisfied with your finished construction project! There are many great builders out there but there are also just as many that will take your final payment and you will never see again! Sad but true, this economy thing is hitting everybody! A lien release may also be a good idea for when each of the subs are paid.
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